Agenda item

Questions and comments

The Chairman will invite questions and comments from the public and from the Area Board Councillors.

 

Minutes:

The Chairman thanked Councillor Tonge for the presentation, commenting that the Area Board would be looking at the issue of the Salisbury Vision in more detail at another Extraordinary Area Board meeting.

 

During the course of the discussion, the general view was expressed from the floor that the new parking charges had resulted in a significant fall in car park occupancy, with a resulting impact on footfall in the city.  The business community raised serious concern regarding the financial impact on local retailers, particularly small and independent shops, and considered that the issue needed to be addressed as a matter of urgency.

 

Questions and comments were invited from the floor, and responses given as follows:

 

  • In response to a question, Councillor Tonge undertook to make available the financial basis on which the revenue implications of reintroducing the 1-hour charge had been calculated.

 

  • Councillor Thomson responded to a comment from John Glen, MP for Salisbury, explaining that the move to a unitary authority had saved around £18 million per year, and had put Wiltshire Council in a more financially secure position that other authorities, resulting in fewer reductions to frontline services than in other areas.  In addition to the reduction in government funding, the Council was seeking to invest in certain services and to make savings of £80 million from the rationalisation of offices.

 

  • Also in response to a question from John Glen, Councillor Tonge explained that the Council’s car parking strategy had been based on “bands”, with small towns in band 4, market towns in band 3, Chippenham and Trowbridge in band 2 and Salisbury in band 1 (due to its unique nature).  This had been set out in the consultation and had been supported by the Scrutiny process.

 

  • The parking charges in Salisbury had been set following comparisons with retail competitors in the south/south west, such as Southampton and Winchester.

 

  • Councillor Tonge reported that the parking income had dropped by around £500,000 across the county.

 

  • Graham Gould of Salisbury City Centre Management stated that Wiltshire Council’s own figures showed that short stay car parking was down 25% in the last year, and long stay car parking was down 66%, with around half of these cars using Park and Ride.  The City Centre Management considered that Salisbury should be compared to Southampton as its most important retail competitor; car parking charges in Salisbury were currently around 10-12% higher than in Southampton.

 

  • In response to allegations that Parking Enforcement Officers were being chauffeur-driven on Sundays and regularly worked in pairs, it was clarified that the Council did not employ any chauffeurs.  Parking Enforcement Officers did occasionally work in pairs; for training, and in some locations for safety reasons.

 

  • Following comments regarding disabled parking and access to Bourne Hill, Councillor John Thomson noted that the same comments had been raised at the previous meeting on 14 July.  Officers had offered to meet with the person who had raised the issue and to investigate the possibility of improved signage.  This offer was still open.

 

  • The view was expressed that the drop in car park occupancy would not only lead to a drop in car park income, but also in business rates, due to the impact on the local economy.  Councillor John Thomson responded that the Cabinet had recognised the need to support local businesses by addressing these concerns. 

 

  • In response to a suggestion that parking charges be introduced for evenings, Councillor Dick Tonge explained that Southampton currnently charged for parking in the evenings, however this had not been proposed for Salisbury during the consultation, and it was not considered that there would be much enthusiasm for evening parking charges in Salisbury.

 

  • It was noted that Winchester had reversed changes to their car parking charges very quickly, and it was queried why Salisbury could not do the same.  Councillor Thomson explained that the change in Winchester was a minor variation to charges, whereas what was being requested in Salisbury was the reintroduction of a 1-hour charge.  Initial advice from the Council’s legal department was that this may constitute a change to the whole parking scheme and so this would need to be re-advertised and subject to public consultation.   Councillor Jane Scott (the Leader of Wiltshire Council) had written to Eric Pickles MP (Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government) to seek a dispensation to amend the charges without the need for this consultation which could delay implementation for several months (letter circulated with papers for the meeting).  Following a request, John Glen MP undertook to lobby Mr Pickles over this issue, to allow Wiltshire Council to bring in any new charges as soon as possible.

 

ACTION: John Glen MP

 

  • It was suggested that, in the meantime, the 2-hour parking charge could be reduced, to alleviate the effect on local businesses.  Councillor Thomson commented that this proposal was one of a number of options which would be discussed with stakeholders at a meeting next Monday.

 

  • Further to a comment regarding a complaint about the behaviour of Parking Enforcement Officers, Councillor Thomson reported that he was aware of the issue which was currently being investigated.  The outcome would be reported to the complainant.

 

  • In response to a comment regarding a legal requirement for councils not to use income from car parks as revenue to fund other services, it was clarified that this referred to income from on-street parking, and that the Council adhered to the wording of the Act.

 

  • It was noted that small shops in the rural villages around Salisbury had seen a small increase in trade as a result of the removal of the 1-hour parking charge.  As such, it was requested that any new 1-hour charge be set with this in mind, rather than encouraging trade into the city at the expense of rural shops.

 

  • In relation to the subsidy for bus travel, the meeting noted that around 70% of bus users had a concessionary bus pass, while the majority of these could afford to pay for bus travel.  John Glen acknowledged that this system could be improved, but noted that a “means tested” system would cost even more to administer, and that it was politically difficult to change the free bus pass scheme.  It was suggested that a voluntary system be introduced, for people to contribute £1 towards the cost of their journey.  By a show of hands, it was established that a majority of bus pass holders present would be happy to contribute on such a voluntary basis.  However, Councillor Thomson reported that this had already been investigated and was not considered to be legally possible.

 

  • The suggestion was made that Park and Ride needed to be cheaper (or free) to encourage greater use.  This would help keep traffic out of the city, thus improving air quality, while maintaining the footfall to sustain the local economy.

 

  • Further to a question regarding the use of traffic management consultants in Salisbury, the Chairman asked officers to provide a response to the questioner.

 

ACTION: James Hazlewood

 

  • It was noted that some towns had been given the opportunity to take over the running of the local car park.  Councillor Tonge reported that this had only been considered for very small car parks, and that the same approach would not be possible with bigger car parks due to the costs involved with maintaining larger sites.