Agenda item

Petition - Salisbury Market Place

The Area Board will receive a presentation on the following petition, which has received over 8,400 signatures:

 

“We the undersigned disagree totally with the plan to needlessly fell the trees in Salisbury Market Place as in plan number S/2011/0520 and to replace them with 17 immature trees. We feel the trees add immeasurably to the character of the Market Place and any destruction of these trees is a retrograde step, and we oppose this plan without reserve.”

 

This will be followed by an opportunity for comment and debate.

 

(It should be noted that this item is on the agenda to allow a public debate on the issue.  However, this matter is subject to a current planning application. The Area Board has no powers to determine planning applications; this authority rest with the Southern Area Planning Committee.  Those Area Board Councillors who are also voting members of the Southern Area Planning Committee are advised not to declare a final or closed view of the matter at this stage, to avoid any perception of predetermination.)

 

Minutes:

The Chairman introduced the item, explaining that a petition of over 8,500 signatures had been collected, opposing the removal and replacement of the trees in the Market Place, as proposed by a design being put forward by the Salisbury Vision.

 

At the Chairman’s invitation, Laura Bell spoke on behalf of Save our Salisbury Trees (SOS Trees), who had organised the petition:

 

  • The majority of signatures had been collected in the Marketplace on market days, with some forms being taken away and sent in to the campaign.  The current number of signatures was 8,962.  The petition welcomed the proposed £3 million investment in the marketplace, but opposed the felling of the existing trees. 

 

  • In response to the main arguments given for the removal of the trees, the petitioners considered that only eight of the trees were currently unhealthy.  In relation to the concerns over rising pavements caused by root growth, it was noted that there were options for addressing this, such as good maintenance and use of flexible surfacing.  Furthermore, a Freedom of Information request had revealed that there had been no insurance claims for trips over rising pavements at the Market Place.

 

  • It was considered that tree pits (as proposed by Salisbury Vision) were untested and could not be guaranteed to deal with the issue.  Reference was also made to measures used in Norwich to retain mature trees in the market place, such as built up cobblestones and circular seating around the base of trees (pictures of this were circulated to the Area Board members).  Finally, in relation to the point about damage to drains, the petitioners noted that the new drains could be relocated away from the trees, to minimise the risk of future damage by tree roots.

 

  • The SOS Trees campaign welcomed the change to the type of trees proposed, and also the Salisbury Vision’s undertaking to talk to the Council’s Tree Officer.  It was hoped that a mutually acceptable solution could be found.

 

The Chairman thanked Laura for her comments and invited Richard Walters, Director of Salisbury Vision, to respond to the points made.

 

  • Richard set out the background to the refurbishment of the Market Place, referring to the background to the project.  It seemed to be generally agreed that some form of refurbishment was required in the Market Place to match the investment being made by regional competitors in their city centres. The proposals had been designed to address a number of issues, by improving lighting, replacing the current poor quality surfacing, and providing a more flexible space.  The principle of this development was supported by the business community, including the Federation of Small Businesses, the Chamber of Commerce, and the City Centre Management. 

 

  • This was a timely opportunity for significant investment in the Market Place to provide a long term solution over the next 50 years or so. The original design, selected via a competition in 2009, had included the retention of the existing trees. However, following specialist advice on trees and sub-surfaces, the decision was taken to replace the trees.  This was to prevent the roots damaging the new surfaces, and blocking drains, and also as some of the trees had been allowed to grow too large and were obscuring the buildings behind.  The majority of the Market traders supported the plans to address the problems caused by tree roots.

 

  • Following an earlier consultation, the proposed replacement trees had been changed from Ornamental Pears to Tulips and Hornbeams.  Advice from experts was that this would recreate a similar canopy within five years, by planting semi-mature trees. 

 

  • The use of tree pits was also proposed to encourage root growth downwards, creating more stable trees.  The Vision’s view was that these had been tested successfully in North America.  Richard also noted that most of the trees would need to be replaced over the next 10-20 years, and that for this to be done piece-meal, would be most expensive and disruptive and result in unattractive patchwork surfacing.

 

The Chairman thanked Richard for his comments and invited questions and comments from the floor.  There was a lengthy debate with a number of views being expressed on both sides of the argument.  Some of the points made included the following:

 

  • There was concern over the accuracy of the straw poll which stated that most of the Market Traders supported the Vision’s proposals.  Another straw poll had shown that the majority wanted the trees retained, as they provided shade and were liked by customers. 

 

  • The view was expressed that the Market Place (and Salisbury city centre as a whole) was unique, and needed to retain its own particular culture.  It was also noted that the high street could not recreate the buzz of a market.

 

  • In relation to the tree canopy, it was suggested that this helped obscure some unsightly shop fronts.  Responding to a question about the canopy which would be created by the proposed replacement trees, Richard explained that this would be similar in width, but shorter and managed more appropriately.

 

  • It was suggested that the existing healthy trees could be retained and the design worked around them, with space left for growth.  However, the view was also made that this would not allow for the replacement surfacing to be installed, and may cause disruption to the layout of the market.

 

  • Concern was expressed that there were a number of misconceptions circulating, with people having understood (incorrectly) that the proposals were for no replacement trees, or for the trees to be replaced with saplings.  General concern was expressed about the lack of public awareness of the scheme, although it was noted that the information was available online, and had been published via several means, including the Salisbury Journal.

 

  • In relation to tree pits, the view was made that growing conditions in North America were significantly different, and that use of them to encourage downward root growth would not be suitable in Salisbury, with its high water table, as this could cause the roots to rot.

 

  • It was noted that the Market had been there for 800 years, and that trees had first been planted 150 years ago.

 

  • In response to comments about the democratic accountability of the Salisbury Vision Board, it was noted that this partnership body consisted of representatives from a number of local bodies, including Wiltshire Council, Salisbury City Council, the business community, the cathedral, the Civic Society, and the Community Area Partnership.

 

  • The view was expressed that although 8,500 signatures to the petition was a significant number, this left 38,500 who had not signed the petition.

 

  • In relation to surface root growth, it was noted that these could not be pruned without the risk of destabilising the tree.

 

To conclude, the Chairman invited comments from the Area Board Councillors.  Views were expressed in support of both retaining and replacing the trees.  Following debate, the following motion was agreed:

 

Decision

 

1.                  The Salisbury Area Board acknowledges the good work being carried out by the Salisbury Vision for the benefit of Salisbury.

 

2.                  Because of the considerable public concern being expressed over the current planning application for the Market Place, in particular the petition in respect of the replacement of the trees, the Area Board respectfully requests that the planning applications (S/2011/1320, S/2011/1321 and S/2011/1322) not be taken to Committee for determination until such time as the situation regarding the trees is fully understood, through further liaison with the Wiltshire Tree Officer and other professional advisors as necessary.

 

3.                  We would like to work with the Vision Board and arrange for the issues to be fully debated in public at an Extraordinary meeting of the Salisbury Area Board, to be arranged for the purpose, once the outcome of this further advice on the trees is known.

 

4.                  We would also propose that Salisbury City Council and the business community give their views.

 

It was also suggested that the public consultation period on the planning application be extended to remove any concern over the deadline for submitting comments on the current proposals.